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I've had my HQ16 a couple of years now and love to do pantos. I pretty much have always done small lap quilts and only had my frame set up at 8 foot.

I've now set it up at 12 feet and plan to do some larger quilts. I limit my panto sizes to 10 and 11 inch patterns, but I can already see that if it's a large quilt, I'm going to run out of room by the time I get to the end of the quilt.

I'm not sure I understand how to know where (how far towards the center, between poles) to start the pattern, so this doesn't happen. I have all 3 of the DVD's HQ sells, does one of them go into this somewhere that I missed?
What kind of pantos do you do? Are they edge to edge on your quilt, just the borders, or the center with something else on the borders? Each one is a little different.

Kathi Salter
Handi Quilter Studio Educator
Pretty much edge to edge.
The width of your machine and carriage will limit how close you can get to the end of the table while following the pantograph. If you stop somewhere in the middle and move your laser pointer to the side of the machine opposite your direction of travel, you can run the machine to its limit while still following the pantograph. Just be careful to make sure the laser is moved to the exact same point on the pattern.
It's not the ends of the pattern I'm confused about. What I'm trying to figure out, when setting up a panto, where my needle position should start, relative to the take up bar and the payout bar. If I place my panto so that my start point is with my needle back against the take up bar, then as the quilt rolls up, I will no longer be able to stitch the bottom of the panto.

Same for the front. If I move my start point say, 2 inches forward from the take up bar, allowing room for the quilt to be rolled up as I quilt it, then I can no longer reach the top of the panto either, because the rolled up quilt on the take up bar limits the back of the machine from moving that far forward.

I hope this makes sense. I'm trying to figure out the optimal start point so that as my quilt progresses, I can still access the entire panto, top to bottom.
First of all, you are going to want to start as close to your take up pole as possible. When you are positioning the laser light, you need to make sure you don't have it at too much of an angle. To make sure it isn't angled too much, point the laser light straight down and then adjust it out about 2" away from the carriage and slightly to the left. You should not have any problem fitting a 10 or 11 inch panto if the laser light is adjusted correctly.

I hope this helps.

Kathi Salter
Handi Quilter Studio Educator
That's exactly what I needed to know, thank you Kathi! I'm sorry I didn't explain myself better to begin with.