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Sagging Pole
Posted: May 27, 2007, 9:00 AM
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My HQ 16 and Quilttable showed up on Wens of last week. The dear hubby went right to work and got everything assembled and ready to go. Friday I loaded some muslin and started practicing. First thing I noticed is that the pole the top is loaded on sags. It sags enough that I can't quilt the full depth. Anyone have a suggestion for this problem. I'm afraid if I load a queen or king quilt the weight is really going to make the sag bad. Linda |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: May 29, 2007, 8:53 AM
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I've had my HQ 16 for a year and my pole doesn't sag. I think you should contact your dealer ASAP because the pole could be defective. When I had my free lesson, the instructor told me to never leave the quilt locked into position if I was not quilting because it could cause too much tension and cause the takeup pole to sag. If yours is new, it shouldn't be sagging yet. Donna |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: May 30, 2007, 8:45 AM
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| I've had my HQ 16 for 8 months and my pole sags. The poles and machine were set up by the dealer that I bought the machine from. They suggested putting a long wooden pole inside the metal pole, but I haven't found one that will fit properly. I haven't used it very much and I have not left a quilt on the poles for any length of time. I tried re-arranging the sections of the pole that interlock, but that did not make any difference. Any other solutions would sure be appreciated. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: May 30, 2007, 1:45 PM
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| I've had my HQ for about a year and my poles sag too. I didn't know if it had anything to do with the table. I got the HQ table that can double as a banquet table and it sags in the middle too. My husband is supposed to make a brace to hold the middle up better. Hopefully, that will solve the pole problem. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 1, 2007, 9:28 AM
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| I have had my HQ16 for a few years now and I have the same problem with a small bit of sagging. I am wondering if this because it is not one long pole, but a series of connections. If I can find poles long enough I might replace them, but any other ideas would be greatly appreciated. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 3, 2007, 12:02 PM
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| I'm new to this forum, but I've read every word under every catagory. I'm especially interested in this problem of the sagging pole. I have talked with a representative of this company (distributor of the HQ 16 )and thought I had asked all of the right questions. I didn't even realize that this was a problem. I'm going to the NQA show next weekend in Columbus, Ohio and was planning on purchasing this machine with the stitch regulator. Does anyone know why the poles are sagging? Does it only happen when you do a larger quilt? Is it equally a problem with a queen and king size? Does this problem occur in other frames? Thanks for your input. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 4, 2007, 4:12 PM
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All, I started this discussion so now I'll fill you in on what I did. I changed the way my poles were put together and connected them 4' then another 4' and the 2' section at the end away from the sprocket. Low and behold the poles are much more stable. I think I can live with it now. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 6, 2007, 10:56 AM
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Hi all, After reading orquilterljd's note, I went and checked by poles. Mine are put together with the 2' sections on the ends also. My poles aren't sagging. My husband put them together for me so I guess he is a smart guy after all - who knew. Happy quilting. Donna |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 7, 2007, 2:57 PM
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Hi, I guess I don't understand what you mean by the poles sagging but I am having trouble when rolling up the quilt the poles seem to bend. Therefore the quilting on the quilt is not straight. I wish the poles were more sturdy. Am I getting the quilts too tight or what? Any suggestions. Someone suggested getting iron poles and slip over these. I feel for the amount of money spent the poles seem cheap. I am a new owner of the machine and still have a lot to learn. I am real happy with the way the machine sews, though. I still have dreams of doing feathers, etc and all the fancy stuff! Thanks Kathy in Nebraska |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 8, 2007, 8:28 AM
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Kathy, Does your take up pole bend in the middle? If so, it's what we are calling sagging. Try putting the two longer poles together and the small 2' pole to the left of the longer ones. See if that helps. Feathers are wonderful. Have fun. Donna |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 8, 2007, 3:29 PM
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| I encountered the same problem when I first set up my HQ16. I called the dealer and she suggested that I change the two screws on the sides where the frame attaches. I tried putting them in the middle holes and problem solved! |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 11, 2007, 11:20 AM
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| If I put the screws in the middle holes, the pole that holds the finished part of the quilt down, ready to roll up to the take up roll (does that make sense?) will touch the bed of the machine. My poles must be really saggy! I have them attached 4'-4'-2'. Maybe I'll take them apart and swap the two 4' poles with each other. Unfortunatley, I have the zipper system attached to the leaders and they are taped to the poles so I'll have to find a day when I have nothing else t do. I'm still waiting for my husband to make the support legs for the bottom of my table. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 12, 2007, 10:08 AM
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Hi, What would happen if you put a sturdier pole(like what you use in closets) inside the take up roller? Just an idea I wondered if anyone else had thought of. I have my two longer poles together with the shorter one to the left--it still sags. I will have to check have to check where the screws are on my frame. Thans Kathy in Nebraska |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: June 30, 2007, 6:05 AM
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I am just doing my "homework" before buying the HQ16 and looking at all the ups and downs of it all. I now have a B-Line Frame and it has square aluminum rods, up to 3 rods for queen/king. They furnished a small "peg" that is inserted in each joint of the rod for stability. Unless I put a lot of tension on my rods, they do not sag. Does that sound like a feasable fix for the sagging situations you are experiencing? Good luck. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: July 10, 2007, 7:21 PM
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| I had the same problem and was told I had rolled the quilt too tight. I back off a little and new seems ok. Does yours still sag without a quilt being on the poles? |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: July 23, 2007, 3:35 PM
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| I got my HQ16 a few weeks ago and put the poles as suggested in previous discussions. I have my frame stretched to its full length and had some sagging. My dear husband went to a building supply store and purchased a short length of one inch diameter dowel rod. He cut it into 8 inch pieces and inserted it in place of the metal connectors . (had to use a little soap to wedge them in but it worked - no more sagging poles) Hope this helps! |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: July 24, 2007, 8:24 PM
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| I got my HQ16 in November, 2006 and have not had any problems with sagging poles but my table sags a bit in the middle. I went to Paducah in April and talked to a dealer there and he said he sells a leg to put in the middle. I haven't done anything yet. Does anyone else have this problem? |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: July 27, 2007, 11:53 AM
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I too have had sagging pole problems, especially on large quilts. My poles are 2-4-4 also. It is the main complaint I have about my machine set-up. The big-boys (gammill, etc.) have much thicker and bigger poles. I like the smaller ones for my machine, I think they are more managable but I am discouraged about the sagging. I like the comment about reinforcing with dowel rods. We will give it a try and see what happens. Love the forum. It's great to know I'm not the only one out there crazy about quilts and crazy about my machine. Lynette from Meridian, Idaho |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: Aug. 4, 2007, 7:05 PM
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I just finished a king size quilt and had the sagging pole problem with the take-up pole. So much so that I couldn't get the tension of the quilt right in the middle. The sides were fine, the middle so loose that the machine would almost stop sewing at that pt. I had the poles that hold the top and bottom so tight they were almost in a 'U' shape, well, not quite that bad, but they did bow. Anyway, I think I'll try putting dowels in as someone did and see what happens. I have another king size quilt to do. Sure would like to be able to replace these poles with ones that are all one piece and sturdy enough not to sag or bow. sewquick - Nevada |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: Aug. 23, 2007, 12:39 PM
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| My wife's top poles sagged when she put them all together when a little tension was put on it. I went to Lowes and got 2 ten foot pieces of 1" EMT Electrical Conduit Thinwall pipe. EMT is cheap. Its a little thicker than the ones that come with the machine and don't have any joints. . Anyway I used one whole piece and part of the other, added a connector (I bought 3 of them), pieced them together, they fit through the holes and this took out about 95% of the sagging. Now if they would use 1 1/4" tubing instead of the 1" this problem probably not exist...Also they have new leveling legs that fit into your table legs so table level adjustments are a pleasure to make. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: Oct. 13, 2007, 10:58 PM
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| Question for the nice husband (wjcostello) that replaced the poles with conduit. When you said you added connectors I am guessing these were connectors that are used with the conduit? Us females are not always savvy on hardware pieces and parts! |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: Oct. 15, 2007, 2:51 PM
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| I also had the problem of sagging poles. DH replaced each aluminum pole with a 10 ft section of 1" electrical conduit pipe (very nice and very sturdy). For the ends, he hammered a wooden dowel of the same diameter into the conduit pipe and then drilled holes in one end of the dowel to screw the locking gear in and end pin. Hope this helps. |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: Nov. 14, 2007, 7:25 AM
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| I am taking wjcostello's suggestion and replacing the poles with electrical conduit. They are very straight and rigid. I was able to remove the sprockets and mount them on th new poles but my question is about the black foam grip on the top pole. Has anyone been able to remove it to remount on another pole? I am thinking my only option may be to slit it down the side and reglue it on the new poles. Let me know if you have conquered this issue. Thanks! |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: July 8, 2008, 10:27 AM
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Hi, I am getting new poles for my frame to help with the sagging, etc. Now to attach my leaders to the new poles. I don't suppose I can get the velcro off and reuse it so what kind of velcro do I get to use. Thanks for your help Kathy |
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Sagging Pole
Posted: July 9, 2008, 1:57 PM
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Blue Quilt, Hi, my husband put new poles on my machine just yesturday and was able to use the same velcro. If you peel it off slow and pull straight up on it I think it will work for you. Flo |
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